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Michael Harrelson's avatar

Like business, not paying attention to the little things starts from the top down. A game plan for coaching the team is obviously not there. A head coach with a game plan approved by AA & upper management must be created with milestones used to grade adherence to the Plan.

Bruce Wallace's avatar

Excellent analysis of an often ignored aspect of the game.

Here's an analysis I'd like answered: In extra innings with the ghost runner on 2b and no outs, how does the frequency of that runner scoring compare if a) the runner is advanced to 3b by the lead-off hitter executing a sacrifice bunt or a ground ball to the right side; or b) simply letting the hitters flail away hoping for a base hit?

Mark Elliott's avatar

Maybe this is factored into the numbers, but it is not called put in the article: do the baserunning stats factor in outs made on the bases? I feel like a lot more Braves get thrown out taking extra bases than other teams, but I do not know that.

My point is that getting thrown out (creating an extra out) has to be way worse than the value of an extra base; I think on stolen bases, you have to be successful over 70% of the time to get above neutral (i.e. a runner who is successful on stolen bases 70% of the time is actually creating negative value on stolen bases, because of the extra outs created by the unsuccessful attempts).

Lindsay Crosby's avatar

Good callout, Mark. I know that pickoffs/CS are in the stolen base number and I believe that accordingly, getting thrown out while trying to take an extra base is in the extra bases taken number. It's negative for Atlanta both on missed opportunities to take one and unsuccessful attempts to take one.

What I don't know is if situations like getting doubled off on a fly ball (thinking Eli White's baserunning mistake at second base here) are incorporated in that number, because that wasn't an attempt to either steal a base or take an extra base on a hit.